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[Hi from about 26 years ago!] A friend of mine, who usually produces music using retro hardware (x0x boxes, Junos etc) did an experiment whereby he made an entire glitchy electronica album, including the track names and artwork, using AI. His online fans were appalled. That was part of the experiment.

It did actually sound quite good. He used a thing called Udio. As my own home studio mostly collects dust it certainly added weight to my whole “why even bother any more?” existential crisis.

But, to paraphrase what you said, the friction is the fun of it. Music in particular has been devalued for a long time because obviously making it has become so much more accessible, so it’s more diluted. But enthusiasts still do plenty of things they don’t need to do just for the pleasure of it, such as maintaining and driving steam engines. Cottage industries exist.

So there’s nothing stopping us putting on our own ’hardware only’ events (for example) if we so wish and it’s still fun to run synths through crackly old guitar pedals and such even though if there are plugins that do that for you, or you can just tell your AI generator to make it sound dirtier (kind of an extension of the same thing?)

Arguably much of Brian Eno’s music is generative and his role became that of the curator / selector: Let the machine run then keep the best bits. I could code my own generative thing in Max4Live but the parameters are still of my design. But I really feel that prompt-based creative is different on a fundamental level, and actually just not interesting any more.

I personally will never see the point of using a prompt to create a piece of music, nor do I want to listen to something that someone’s frontal lobes haven’t pored over the details of. That said I did feel a deep disturbance at how good my friend’s glitch album sounded.

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